Can we, please, not fill posts here with slop? Detector say : 50% AI or likely AI and given that it's exactly what it says about typical ChatGPT Pro generated texts I'm not sure if there are anything human-written. The whole post may be written as three or four lines of text without making people r…

[image] curoli: More and more posters will use AI secretly, having learned how to hide it. The original post was blatant slop. (The linked code was a mixture of human and AI written.) The fact that more sophisticated AI is harder to detect seems irrelevant.

Good AI creator knows to not use copyrighted code as training data. Some people rewrite copyrighted code to make it legal, that is exactly what AI does. If you have learned the inside algorithm in AI, it does not produce 100% 1:1 result like the training data, but a combination of all training data,…

[image] curoli: Right, it is ideology. Modern AI is not more of a random chance machine than the human brain. I hate to be that kind of a guy, but could you cite at least one reputable source for this very claim? Ideally, one that wouldn't be sponsored by one of the AI/LLM shops you're using …

[image] fuji-184: Good AI creator knows to not use copyrighted code as training data. Anthropic paid 1.5 billion USD in a copyright infringement settlement and there are similar lawsuits against OpenAI and Meta.

[image] fuji-184: there is nothing wrong using compiler to create binary and saying it is your app Well, the compiled binaries are not the works done by human. From the copyright prospective, these are derivative works, derived from the source code, which is assumed to be an original work. S…

it feels to me like this topic has veered way off course. "what should the policy on llm-generated posts be" and "how should said policy be enforced are very different". only @theemathas has said something related to the post's question as far as i can see.

In the interest of getting back on the track: [image] khimru: Can we, please, not fill posts here with slop? I'm all for it. [image] khimru: Detector say : 50% AI or likely AI and given that it's exactly what it says about typical ChatGPT Pro generated texts I'm not sure if there are any…

I dislike reading slop, but I'm against strongly policing use of LLMs for posts. It makes the forum hostile. People see verbose text with emoji or — gasp! — an m-dash, and derail the discussion. It creates an atmosphere of suspicion and accusations. That's terrible when someone gets falsely accused…

i agree that a conversation on what the exact stance on llm messages is should be had, but i believe it should not be here, so i will not share my opinion here. on the topic of automatic detection, i don't believe it is a great idea because of the unreliability of the tool. but i do feel somethin…

I agree. In our Russian-speaking Rust gamedev community, that I currently moderate, we have a policy to not discriminate just by the fact that the work is vibe-coded or the comment is written by LLM. Instead we let people tell about their experience. This at least stimulates enthusiasm in learning R…

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