Remove the engagement-y lines in /new and /unread?

Recently the forum started having big images and “more clicks please” flavored taglines in the /new and /unread pages:

Nothing new at the moment...check back soon!

Nothing left unread...impressive!

These put me off — I don't want the software I use to be telling me to disregard my interests in favor of its owners’, or giving me bogus compliments. I imagine I’m not alone in this in the Rust community, so I’m asking: can we replace those with more neutral text?

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I never used those subpages, but I can confirm the messages after hitting that dismiss button.
I for my part don't take those messages too seriously, though. I rather read them with a self-ironic undertone.
But, of course, your mileage may vary.

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Hey there, we can fix this. As I’m not really a user of them either, what did these pages look like before the change?

I cannot answer that myself, but if I understood @kpreid correctly, the main issue they’re having with this is the check back soon! call to action and disingenuous impressive! after the actual information that there’s nothing to see. So it may be a good first step to remove those.

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They also used to not have a big button and image, and we're just a (non-centered) paragraph of text with a link instead of a button shape. But I don't care as much about those properties, no.

Other websites using Discourse typically show something like this (here on https://discuss.pixls.us, same on https://forum.manjaro.org/):

EDIT: I'm wondering if that's not a change due to the recent update. The release notes are here, and it seems we have now 3.5.0.beta9-dev, but I haven't gone through the logs (and that particular version isn't listed).

Yeah, it’s definitely a recent change :slight_smile:

^ this one specifically

Nonetheless, Discourse allows for lots of customization in the website settings. Changing just the labels is very easy; anything more would require some HTML or perhaps even JS interactions via theme components; to start, I’ll just change the texts for now already.

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That must be it. EDIT: It seems @steffahn had already found it. :slight_smile:

3.5.0.beta 7:

  • Add revamped new and unread topic filter education (32669)

Oh my… that’s some pretty useful introductory information on that page, because otherwise it’s quite unclear what “Unread” even means.

:see_no_evil_monkey: but at least the page is “less overwhelming and more visually pleasant” now?

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:joy:

Well, at least it specifies that it's not all the threads, only those where the user showed an interest. But yes, perhaps it's possible to compress that text without any risk of losing too much precious information.

It's strange to show that every time, too. A couple of times is fine, but after that, users should know how it works. If it were me, I'd just put that in an FAQ.

The /new was less "overwhelming", though still very educational:

You have no new topics. Browse all categories or view latest topics.

Your new topics will appear here. By default, topics are considered new and will show a • indicator if they were created in the last 2 days.

Visit your preferences to change this.

not sure if related to above discussion, but a new icon without any alt text/visible explanation/function description appeared for me in top right part of screen - right to the left of search, menu, my icon... (looks like a 6 legged bug, clicking adds/removes strikethrough to/from it)

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I should have tested that – it looks like this theme component had a logic error :sweat_smile:

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