Hi! I don't want to start a rant here. Just want to share my concerns as new rust user. My background: I work as Unity3D game developer, I mostly use C# now. I used to do lots of iOS development with Objective-C and web-development with ruby. I always was interested in computer science, so I trie…

I wrote personal projects in Rust for 18 months before I introduced it to my (very small) team of developers . Even though I love Rust I had A LOT of FUD about bringing Rust to our development tools because of the learning curve, the lack of libs, and the lack of community experience with Rust in p…

[image] mholub: Things like storing reference to the part of structure into the same structure (I know about owning_ref) or double-linked list in rust is implemented. This sounds like the XY problem. There aren't many cases when you want to store a reference to a part of a structure in the sa…

[image] Manishearth: As far as linked lists, that's a very specific example you've picked up. Why is the ability to write a linked list being used as a yardstick for Rust's difficulty? Usually linked lists are used to introduce pointers in systems languages, and are considered an "intro" topic. …

[image] Manishearth: In fact, we've repeatedly gotten feedback that companies introducing non-systems programmers to Rust found it a much better choice to introduce systems programming. Thank you. It is actually almost my case. I don't have experience with system programming besides universi…

A good question! I also find that Rust is difficult for some intuitive definition of difficult (though your linked list example is not a good argument for the case :slight_smile: ). However, I don't believe that simple languages do really exist. Like, I thought that Python is nice and simple until …

[image] steveklabnik: I believe in people. I would probably vote this post down if I could. Optimism is fine, as long as you give some sort of evidence for it. This is just completely empty; it's a feel-good phrase, and nothing more.

The longer version is: People aren't dumb, just lazy. They tend to be capable of a lot more than even they themselves believe.

This question seems so bizarre to me. I read all the comments, but none of them really go at the heart of this question, which is really two different questions: "Is Rust's complexity greater than other languages, and will this hold the language back in terms of greater adoption". Rust has taken me…

I'd say it's more difficult, but it is for good reason. I just finished my first real rust project, and learning to deal with the borrow checker was a pain. It reminded me a lot of going back to a language without a GC from one with, or one without exceptions or a monad-like structure for error hand…

Isn't rust too difficult to be widely adopted?

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Isn't rust too difficult to be widely adopted?

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